WE TESTED A COMMUNITY STRATEGY · XAUUSD 15min

Gold 15-minute: fade unusually strong intraday moves (US hours)

Fading unusually strong 15-minute moves in gold during US hours, five years, real spread. Fading lost 11% and following the move lost 8.5%; tuning found only a tiny result on too few trades, so there was no reversal or continuation edge in this form.

From r/Daytrading. The idea, in our words: The poster's open question: do unusually strong intraday gold moves reverse? Built as: on 15-minute XAU/USD in US hours, when the last hour moved more than 2.5 ATR, trade against it. 1.5 ATR stop, 2 ATR trailing stop, no fixed target, out within 180 minutes, no overnight.

no edge

As posted · the rules as described (see what we assumed below)

-11.4%total return
0.88profit factor
39.4%win rate
14.9%max drawdown
878trades
5.0years tested

Optimized: best settings Quant Core found · last months held back as unseen data

+2.8%total return
1.25profit factor
43.7%win rate
1.0%max drawdown
213trades
1.15profit factor on unseen months

Improved: follow the strong move instead of fading it

We then tried 8 changes a quant would test first (640 settings in all) and kept the best on past data only. The held-back months played no part in choosing it. It did not hold up on the unseen months.

+6.4%total return
1.84profit factor
47.1%win rate
1.1%max drawdown
70trades
0.21profit factor on unseen months

Ideas tried for this post

Each idea was tuned on past data only, then run on the held-back months (£ won per £1 lost).

IdeaTuning monthsUnseen months
follow the strong move instead of fading it+6.4% · £1.84-1.1% · £0.21 · 7 trades
fade only in the first 90 minutes after the New York open+8.8% · £1.41-0.2% · £0.86 · 11 trades

What we had to assume

  • Strong move = the close-to-close move over the last 4 bars (1 hour) beyond 2.5 x ATR(14)
  • US hours = 9:30 to 15:00 New York for entries
  • Spot gold CFD with its real spread, not Hyperliquid's 0.18% taker fee
  • Exit: ATR trailing stop (as the post uses), forced out after 12 bars (180 minutes)

A different reading of the rules could give a different result.

Backtested with the StratOS optimizer on historical data, with spread and costs charged, and the most recent months held back as unseen data. A backtest is not a forecast, and nothing here is investment advice.

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